I have pretty complicated feet apparently, and just discovered pretty recently while looking for a hiking boot. So I went into amazon ordered some 10 pairs, from keen, to adidas to salewa and nothing felt good. Went into shops and tried more adidas, more salewas, timberlands, anything i could get my feet on and nothing fit. Loosing hope, ordered more keen's thargee 3 and they felt good, except my heel just would not stay in place, and rumors tell, they tend to self destruct quickly, but on the last batch of boots there came the moab 3 I ordered just to fill the box and was planing to just return them, until I put them on, and instantly they felt dreamy and fit perfectly. The moab 3 low are now my everyday shoe while looking to still buy that hiking boot, it will probably end up being a moab 3 gtx for winter...